HP Deskjet F4180 All-in-One Printer/Scanner/Copier (CB584A#A2L)

• Robust and affordable all-in-one printer, scanner, and copier
• Enlarge and resize documents and photos, plus make copies in color or black, without computer
• Crystal clear scans with the 1200x2400 dpi scan resolution
• Scan pages of books and thick materials: scanner cover easily removed and replaced
• 1-Year limited manufacturer''s warranty

This machine is an ink guzzler. I can''t print out my term papers without having to go through at least two cartridges. Unless you only expect to use it for very light use (print out the occasional e-mail, directions), I''d say look for something else, unless you want to keep a ton of cartridges in stock all the time.

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I had an epson sylus photo 825 printer and that was a ink guzzler it would finish the ink even if i didnt use it for the month "Really strange"; not really because companies do this so u spend money on their ink which cost 20-30 a pop for epson. So i decided to go with the HPf4180. I think im still in the same boat because it drinks ink but not as much as the epson. It has little brackets that tell you how much ink youve wasted whenever you print. This bracket goes down about 1/4 of a notch each time, and thats using the B&W with fast printing the cheapest effective way; also thats just priting 1 sheet!!!

I hope HP''s "Bracket" is not an accurate count and still prints even when the notch reaches low, unlike the epson which WOULD NOT print once the bracket was at the low. Which was BS. Hopefully HP is different. On a scale of 1-10 its a 7 because of the price. Staples has it for 60.00 and it comes with both inks; Each ink cost about 20 bucks, works out.

Another excellent feature is the copier, you computer doesnt need to be on. Just press the power button, then press one button (Copy in B&W or color) and done, super user friendly and convenient!!!

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Bought this printer about two months back.

Installation took a long time. That is ok since it has a lot of features which take a while to install. BUT here is what happened.

Started installation after 10mins says "You need to be Administrator".

So ran the program again as "RUN AS Administrator". After about 10-15mins says "You need to be real adminsitrator".

Why could it not say that at the beginning and saved us a lot of time.

The main problem with this printer is that it runs out of ink really fast. Too fast. We are now on the 2nd cartridge and we do not print much.

Hope we can return in to the store. It has been used less than a dozen times. We only printed a few forms(B&W) and I dont want to spend $15 on another cartridge. Other than that the printer prints fine, great features and quality printing.

We had another HP deskjet before and only changed the ink cartridge once in about 2 years.

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When I got it, it looked like a storage box. When I tryed to print, it made all kind of loud noises and the paper jamed continuosly. Many carriage stalled message error. Very poor paper load mechanism. Don''t buy it. I returned mine for refund and got me the Epson CX8400. Now I''m happy!!!

When my beloved Epson CX3810 All-In-One died after a long and useful life, I

thought I''d try a new vendor and bought the HP F4180 All-In-One, thinking HP,

with its long reputation for creating excellent printers, might build a

better one.

I was wrong.

I spent about twelve hours trying to get the software installed under Windows

XP. I first tried the software on the CD and then the updated software on the

Web. Both installation processes seemed to hang at the end and not complete. I

had some partial functionality but every time I booted XP the incompleted

installation would try to create a second and then a third copy of the

printer. Then I moved to HP''s online chat support (telephone support has been

long discontinued) and after about six hours and five different agents, it

still wasn''t working. The last agent promised to email me her solution, a

"Level 4 uninstall", which I didn''t get until hours after I had, at the end of

my rope, returned the HP F4180 and purchased an Epson CX8400 All-In-One which,

true to its older brother, the CX3810, installed out-of-the-box

perfectly. And, for five dollars more, the CX8400 has "ten times" the

capability of the F4180.

In fairness to HP, the F4180 *did* run on my Linux box and my virtual Windows

XP box running under Linux. Also, while their online chat support didn''t fix

my problem, their instructions were usually clear, if ineffective.

After this ordeal, I will never buy an HP Deskjet again. I write these words

sadly as I worked for HP in the early 80''s when the name HP was synonymous

with quality. No longer.

Sayonara, HP. Welcome back, Epson.